Season 2 PLG - Episode 8: Leah & April Dunford

She's the best there is in positioning. And she'll show you why.

Leah is positioned to the left, April is positioned to the right. Together, they talk about positioning.

Season 2 of the Productea, product-led growth! April is an expert in positioning and she graced me with her presence to talk about it. Turns out we are quite fun together and spilling the tea with her was incredibly fun. She even managed to interrupt me at times.

“Creating a safety net for me messing up, that unlocked me”

What an incredible time and learnings she shared in her typical direct way. This episode is truly for everyone that is interested in positioning themselves or their business in any way. And everyone should.

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Timestamps:

0:00 April’s Introduction

02:30 What do people get wrong about you April?

04:15 April’s path to consulting and being empowered because of choice

07:20 April interviewing Leah. What has changed in the last 2 decades in our industry

09:30 How startups used to be built in the past vs. today

12:00 The effect of venture capital being everywhere

14:30 Positioning vs Messaging

18:30 The fear of having to “decide” to serve certain customers and how to get around it

25:50 Hacks vs. scaleable, repeatable tactics

30:10 Charging for leverage instead of scarcity

33:00 How do you deal with impostor syndrome?

33:20 Putting others on a pedestal

39:10 The one advice April wished she had earlier in her career

44:15 What trend do you see in the industry that you bet on? “Growth Hacking”

47:00 Trying to copy things instead of thinking about what you can sustain

Shownotes

April Dunford: Obviously Awesome (Amazon)

Rise & Trout: Positioning the Battle for your Mind

Connect!

April’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/

April’s Website: https://www.aprildunford.com/

Connect with Leah: https://linktr.ee/leahtharin